20. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. Bibarel can learn all. tropius is also a good hm slave. Sandshrew is now part of the Onix tail. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. 8. I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. Johto Legends, a Gen 2 Rom hack, removed HM's and has a dedicated Surf system where Lapras will give you a ride on the field by simply interacting with the water. I doubt Rock Climb will remain an HM in HgSs, and Fly is a good-enough move in-game to teach to the physical Flying-type on your team, since there's no risk of an in-game trainer switching to a Rock/Steel/Electric-type and setting up. Zigzagoon can learn Surf. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Rising Badge. Here’s a list of Pokemon that IMO could make good fits for such a team: Grass: Venusaur, Victreebel (B/Y), Vileplume (R), Exeggutor (requires grinding). But since it is Unova, can anyone recommend a good HM mule other than water types because water type HMs are strong. For this game Watchog and Swanna have become the slaves, between them all HMs are covered (except Waterfall) also the former HMs rock smash and. Pokémon Blue. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. The HMs are mostly the same as in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, with the exception of HM05 which was changed from Defog to Whirlpool. Well, there's only 6 HM's in BW - Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall, Dive. In Generations 1-4, Oddish has a base experience yield of 78. Then by replacing them with riding pokemon in Alola. RogueLapras. HM Fly is useful as it allows you to instantly return to towns you have previously visited. 5. Tempo Owner Karma: 24 Offline Gender:. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. Generation 6; Generation 7; Generation 8; Generation 9. Like for example the only pokemon I can teach cut right now after 1st gym is my starter and that move is crap, I don't want to lock a move slot just for that. Jp. Technical Machines. PP Effect % TM03: Swords Dance--100: 30--A special move that greatly boosts the user's ATTACK power. I doubt Rock Climb will remain an HM in HgSs, and Fly is a good-enough move in-game to teach to the physical Flying-type on your team, since there's no risk of an in-game trainer switching to a Rock/Steel/Electric-type and setting up. HM slaves will typically have all four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across. Right now with 4 badges I'm rolling with Level 63 Pikachu Level 41 Mew Level 41 Alakazam Level 31 Alakazam Level 13 Clefairy Level 12 Oddish You can probably guess the two non-contributing factors to my team (hint: its not the two Alakazams). It has three pairs of legs with the foremost pair forming large pincers. This way, you don't need to sacrifice a move slot of your party Pokemon or make use of an HM slave. e: no Pokémon dedicated to be HM slaves) but with Exp hard to come by you have to be mentally prepared to do a bit a grinding. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. Smogon. 4. #11. I. Fly is a decent flying move so not really a slave. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. HM slaves will typically have all four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other obstacles at. #1. Cut. Walrein. Bassmeister_ • 11 yr. Do You use HM slaves? Thread starter Typhlosionvsworld; Start date Mar 14, 2011; Status Not open for further replies. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. Yawn - Sleeps 100% but in 2 turns. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. someone who can. My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. But honestly it was an alright move in combat. In later games, I find Gyrados to be a great HM slave. i got rhyhorn with rock smash and strengh. On the second turn, Dig deals damage. Generation VIII. Haxorus is 1. I want to have a perfectly trained and crafted team of 6 pokemon with 4 perfect moves. 8 meters tall and weighs 105. I always found the game to be more rewarding and challenging by only raising 4 or 5 pokemon on my way through my first Elite 4 clear, and having the 6th slot for a 'utility' pokemon. Garchomp. Hawlucha can also learn False Swipe, which is useful for catching things. Dragonite makes a pretty good hm slave. ago. I would never use one as a slave. B. It learns Cut and Strength as well, putting it comfortably in the “3 HM” category that seems to dominate in Gen 6. ~ 12514-29694-66068-57372. Capable of learning cut, surf, strength, rock smash, and rock climb, this otherwise useless Pokémon makes for a relatively good HM slave. TM # Move. M. That was before facing E4 and Cynthia. Sleep Powder 75% Sleep. News. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. ago. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. The game also includes a Mega Evolution, as well as stones that you. Basically, unless you want to clog your Pokemon with these shit attacks, you have to carry an HM slave which means you only get five "battling" Pokemon, which is also an annoyance. javel34 12 years ago #2. I mainly made this topic to benefit would be searchers when the games come. Technically, you could get him in gen 1 without a cheating device through some manipulations (I did it on the VC versions to complete the dex). Bidoof/Zigzagoon are both available early and work well, while Hawlucha is available a bit later but can learn all the non-water moves. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. :bidoof: Gyarados - Rock Smash, Waterfall. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. I'm currently playing Emerald. 2. The only downside to Ludicolo is that it requires a Water Stone for evolution. PP. titaniumjew merp • 7 yr. Dec 4, 2020. 4. ago. Most HM moves are easily outclassed in battle (with the possible exceptions of Fly and Surf), they require to you use a Move Deleter to remove them (despite the fact they're, y'know, reusable and thus could be relearned at any time), and they force you to have Pokemon in your party who can use them (hence the development of "HM Slaves". Tentacool is easy to find and can use Surf, Dive, and Waterfall (and Cut) torchic373 8 years ago #7. This is a sig. Cynthia gives it to you in Eterna City. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. It's nice not having to have 1 or more HM slaves in your party, or wasting move slots on your good Pokemon, but it also makes exploration feel soulless and boring. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. Friend Code: 0447-6401-4083 Psychic type (forgot what. Generation VII • Generation VIII ( SwSh • BDSP) • Generation IX. Strength. 1. I think crawdaunt learns all those moves. Teach him Sunny Day and Solar Beam. (HM Slave) among the 5th Gen pokemon imo. With that being said, I also don't like to shove all of them onto 2 Pokémon. Wooper can learn Waterfall, Surf, Whirlpool, and Flash. Yogi Bear King of Poke Games. Swanna gets Fly, Surf, and Dive which is useful for travelling everywhere. Once it evolves into Crawdaunt, a ton of. In the core series: Generation I • Generation II • Generation III • Generation IV • Generation V • Generation VI. As Dresden said, that's where you get HM03. Japan: February 27th 1996 (Red/Green) Japan: October 15th 1996 (Blue). imgur. In Generations 2-7, Oddish has a base Friendship value of 70. Best. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. That’s a shame, too. Acc. 6. While underground, the Pokémon can only be hit by the moves Earthquake, Magnitude or Fissure, with Earthquake and Magnitude dealing twice normal damage. Kiranfina • 5 yr. The HMs are mostly the same as in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, with the exception of HM05 which was changed from Defog to Whirlpool. While you certainly have to bring a new 'mon on, most trainers have a dedicated slave, or slaves for each HM. Hmm cool. Pokemon Black Version. Tauros and persian are pretty great in gen 1. 2 Answers. Generation 2 also adds a Move Deleter character, allowing Pokémon to forget HM moves once learned. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. Accepted Answer. Dec 4, 2020. Below are all the Pokémon in the Kalos Pokédex with green ticks showing which HMs each can learn. credit to a liikala post. Had something like 8 mons I rotated through, hence the hard decisions here Reply More posts you may like. Yes, i know they're old and i'm just now doing this. Thread starter Yogi Bear; Start date Jan 17, 2010; Status Not open for further replies. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. Both of these were thankfully fixed in Gen 2. HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machine. She's currently level 49 cause when my current. I've explained why Psychic is good already, Recover is to heal up, Reflect to boost. Who are the best HM slaves in each generation? I'm talking two pokemon who together can learn all the HMs in any given game and generally make life a whole lot easier. Pokédex; Games; TutorialsFor Pokemon Black Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "I just heard you won't need HM slaves this gen". TM/HM # Attack Name Type Att. . The HM slave. [deleted] • 4 yr. Surf. [deleted] • 4 yr. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in FireRed ( Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Strength ). Trainers need to collect a certain number of Gym Badges in order to qualify for a region's Pokémon League. A pokemon that can learn a couple of the HM moves to make it easier. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Dec 10, 10 at 5:00pm (PST) ^. Dragonit is great, but is difficult to opbtain. . Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. -Henry Louis Mencken. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. I don't like having a pokemon on my team with a. garydose (watefall gives it one of the very few advantages that it can wreck with a HM) dragonite (1 of the 2 pokemon that learn every HM) arceus (a third pokemon that learns all HM's In the 4th gen ) hydrigon. Basically, unless you want to clog your Pokemon with these shit attacks, you have to carry an HM slave which means you only get five "battling" Pokemon, which is also an annoyance. Theirs always one HM slave. It can swim, Cut down trees, Break some rocks, CLIMB A MOUNTAIN, CREATE A WHIRLPOOL, MOVE A 15. Pokémon Black & Pokémon White actually cut back the number of HMs from previous games, from eight in Generation 4 down to six. I like Bibarel and Tropius myself, although I'm sure there are better. Slowbro - Surf, Psychic, Flash, Teleport. 8. ago. In later games, I find Gyrados to be a great HM slave. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. Krabby can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, and Rock Smash. Right now I've got Strength and Surf on a Herdier and I have a pidove with fly. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. Enjoy catching all of your favourite Pokemon, from Gen 1 up to Gen 7, while using all of your favourite moves and abilities from each of these generations!. . This item article is part of Project ItemDex, a Bulbapedia. In Generation 1, HM moves cannot be deleted once learned. The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained, and unlike TMs could not be tossed or sold for money. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. . Gen IV’s Empoleon is one of the greatest HM slaves of all time, for the Sinnoh games and throughout all the generations. Charizard is a starter HM slave that can also attack. This page lists all the moves that Pikachu can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. Quagsire can learn Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, and Surf. I also use a Flying Type solely for HM Fly, but since they are part of my team, I train them normally and they don't really count as. This account has been placed into Purgatory, a timed suspension from posting any further messages on GameFAQs. net. This is another generation 5 Pokémon that isn't especially strong but is somewhat iconic to the region. ago. Strangely, the HM Dive is not available, nor are there any areas in which it can be used. Pokémon Crystal Clear is an open-world ROM hack, meaning there are no barriers to reaching any of the game’s major cities. In Canaclave City, there's a house below the Pokemon Centre. Major Battles: Farfetch'd generally needs to set up with Swords Dance and potentially Agility in order to sweep any team. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. Zeimma • 9 yr. Third-gen dex has info on Pokemon and all the moves they can learn (also there's the Attackdex which lists all the moves and who can learn them) - a bit of searching got me some like Diglett, Poochyena, Kecleon. It can learn dive, waterfall and strength. Acc. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. 19. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. eminentAdmiral • 2 yr. 3 Answers. . hms. I'm not sure, but Swanna and Pelipper can learn Fly or Surf. 4M subscribers in the pokemon community. In Generation 1, HM moves cannot be deleted once learned. I'd look into who can learn those. Krabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. A group of Electric-type Pokémon based on rodents, consisting of Pikachu, Raichu (sometimes omitted), Pichu (sometimes omitted), Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, Emolga, Dedenne, Togedemaru, Morpeko, Pawmi, Pawmo, and Pawmot. Improve this. The dex numbers include the Pokédex region - Ce ntral, Co astal, and Mo untain. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Red Blue: Its pincers are not only powerful weapons, they are used for balance when walking sideways. Notify me about new: Guides. re: Best HM Slave. View source. #1. ago. Z-Move effects. The Move Deleter guy lives there. Did use Tropius many times. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. 12. . ago. (41/151)HM requirements bum me out sometimes. News. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. Then by replacing them with riding pokemon in Alola. In every core series Pokémon game except Pokémon Legends: Arceus, trading is necessary to collect all Pokémon. The term originates from GameFAQs. If you're not Surf or Fly (and sometimes Strength and Waterfall), you're going on an HM Slave. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 7 posts, 9/26 10:11AM. However, I can’t deny the fact that Haxorus is an objectively better Pokémon than Salamence. The exception, of course, being if they're not legitimate encounters—though I've never been in a situation where no Pokémon I own could learn a certain HM. Personally, in every generation I've caught pokemon during my journey that can learn at least one HM, and bring them out of the box when needed, ex: Pidgey with fly. Fly. ago. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. Reply 300zxTwinTurbo •. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. News. In Pokemon Black and White, Cut is the only HM move required to complete the main storyline, and even then it does not require frequent use. Cheats. Defog was replaced by Whirlpool in the Generation 2 remakes HeartGold & SoulSilver. 5-SPP (19/November/2017) This Moveset Searcher has been written by Hercules G. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). Out of all the Pokémon kicking attacks, this is the strongest. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. Obviously, Mew is the best HM slave, if you use a gameshark or the Catch Mew glitch. Current Version: Version 4. Red Blue: During the. In Generations 1-4, Krabby has a base experience yield of 115. Pokémon Kalos Crystal. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Those were gyarodos and tropius. However, when faced with a grass-type Pokémon, it quickly becomes useless. This was the first generation where I decided to try incorporating the HMs into the party rather than using a slave and it turned out pretty nice, adding some flexibility by having another well developed poke, although some with worthless moves. After watching this video you know what is the best pokemon t. I generally spread out my HMs among a few pokemon. ago. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. It is highly accurate and relatively powerful. 7. Perhaps they could even switch it up so that every type in the game has some kind of secret power. Apr 7, 2010. The abilities of Skarmory are Keen Eye and Sturdy EV yield. Cut is usually the culprit and it will require the player to go back and withdraw a second HM slave for Cut. Aromatherapy - cures status effects from the whole team. Log in to add games to your lists. Golduck can use Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. Bibarel is an extremely good HM slave, but he's only found in Gen 4. As the title suggests, post here the Pokemon you find to be good for HM slaves, and for which HMs. I also like keeping a staryu/starmie. Gen 1: Product of genetic engineering, not really the embodiment of any natural or cosmic concepts but really good at fighting and telekinetically ragdolling things. The power, accuracy and other information listed below is as it was in the respective games. Whirlpool. I need a HM slave for firered but i dont know which ones can learn 4 hm moves. To complete the Pokedex, you have to play THOSE games, which have a. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 9 posts, 11/19 3:06AM. Strength. Use Hawlucha. Reply 300zxTwinTurbo •. r/pokemon • Favourite gen 9 Pokémon. I. Questions. Both get a lot of critical hits because of their speed. The way Hidden Machines work now has seen a huge change. But yeah, thanks for voting anyway. Couldn't fly so you'd need 2 flying types on you at most times. These items are usually necessary to progress, and as such, can be used multiple times on multiple Pokémon, unlike Technical Machines, or TMs. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). ago. Rock Smash. Yes, i know they're old and i'm just now doing this. Nicknamed "Slavelabor" after the Pokemon Abridged Series. It's nice not having to have 1 or more HM slaves in your party, or wasting move slots on your good Pokemon, but it also makes exploration feel soulless and boring. Quite a valuable asset. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. I don't mind HMs though, I'm used to have HM slaves in my party since I usuallay play the game with 2-3 main pokemon anyway. Farfetch'd can also make a good HM slave, as it learns both Cut and Fly. Contributed By: DerpHerpington9. . Re: HM Whore Showdown! It's probably best not to use language like that in the thread/poll title. Italic indicates a move that gets STAB only when used by an evolution of Charizard. -Henry Louis Mencken. Notify me about new: Guides. eShop Download Size: 11MB 79 Blocks. When I actually played the original Gen 1's for the first time (this was after I'd played Leaf Green), you can't even imagine the suffering I went through when I got to Fucshia only to discover to my horror that the Move Deleter didn't exist in Gen 1. In Generation 1, Slowpoke has a base Special stat of 40. We’re working in descending order, meaning Blaine is the “worst” Gen I gym leader, in my opinion. All are in the Fairy or Field Egg Groups, and all have English. I don't mind HMs though, I'm used to have HM slaves in my party since I usuallay play the game with 2-3 main pokemon anyway. 5. Staff; Guidelines; More . BirdTheBard • 2 yr. It just seems unnecessary. Flash (Japanese: フラッシュ Flash) is a non-damaging Normal-type move introduced in Generation I. D. I like having one HM slave to hold my crummy moves and the nicer HMs be passed around between my actual team members, but unfortunately I have found that there would appear to be no good HM slaves in gen. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Board Topics. 1. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. Surf and Dive - Water types. It is known as the Pokémon which resembles armor. 1. Skarmory: Rock Smash, Fly, Defog, Cut Swampert: Waterfall, Surf, Strength, Rock Climb Azumarill: Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, Surf135 votes, 75 comments. Spore - 100% Sleep. Depends on the game, really. CryptoHey guys I am TheBattleRuler and today I am going to talk about the best hm slaves in the game. Jan 2, 2015. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. Outside of battle Main article: Movable boulder → Gallery Trivia. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). You guys are discussing which pokemon to make an hm slave. Hmm cool. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. TM # Move. In Black 2 and White 2, if a Pokémon in the player's party knows the move Rock Smash when they talk to one of the Workers in Clay Tunnel, they can help clear a section of. Jan 17, 2010 #1 I'm looking for a Pokemon that will preferably learn Cut and. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Same for other HMs: Fly - Flying types (duh) Strength - Normal or Fighting types. Another point is that most HM moves aren't all to bad. Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. I just used the HMs as a kind of "trash sweeper" move. Flash (Japanese: フラッシュ Flash) is a non-damaging Normal-type move introduced in Generation I. Generation VIII. Annoyingly, once you get to Kanto you will need at least one HM slave in your party for a few of the gyms, as the entrance to Vermilion Gym is blocked by a cuttable tree, and reaching the volcano where Blaine's gym was relocated requires surf. Dodrio - Drill Peck - Tri Attack - Hyper Beam - Agility. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. A Hidden Machine, HM for short, is an item that, like a TM, is used to teach a Pokémon a move. I'm very tempted to use my Mew, I just refuse to use an HM on any of my "decent" Pokemon. These are the four water type HMs: •Surf- Extremely useful and one of the most important HMs. Tbf they're all good for playthroughs in their own way. The amount of damage from the poison increases every turn. Cut is not required to complete Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald and their remakes, Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, or Pokémon X and Y. It was HM05 from Generations I to III and TM70 from Generations IV to VI, as well as in Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl . Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). Egg Moves can only be relearned if the pokemon was bred in gen 6 though. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. Joined May 31, 2013. Move groups Includes attacks that cannot miss and 1. KillerFugu • 4 yr. It burrows and lives underground. 360 GT: Doom. In generation 1, as a small child, the concept of an "HM slave" never occurred to me. In spin-off games: Mystery Dungeon series. Here's some movesets. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. I just need one pokemon that can use Cut, Fly, and any 2 of the other HMs, and the only 2 pokemon that I have seen that can do this are Dragonite, and Charizard. That was before facing E4 and Cynthia. Guess what Pokémon can learn all of these moves? Yes, Bibarel. :bidoof: Staraptor - Fly. The rental Pokemon in Gen 7 especially sucked, cause they're random Pokemon that you have no attachment to at all, and you have to wear that ugly gear while doing it. Parasect is an orange, insectoid Pokémon that has been completely overtaken by the parasitic mushroom on its back.